2019 Whole Community Survey Responses

The land in question is boggy and not used. The Council should take into consideration all its residents, not just those of a certain age. Security cameras would protect everyone. people complain about youngsters on their phones and computers all the time, the ones their parents invented by the way and bought them for them, and yet start using your initiative - and that's not good enough either. The Council should back it, promote it and use it as a trophy for their inclusivity and forward thinking!

Stick to your guns and keep fighting for the skate park with pump track too. 

I think we need a skatepark so we can keep fit and have fun

Maybe Murton park would be ok near the garage side of the park but current drainage is terrible and it couldn’t be too close to the park as I thinks it’s best to keep them separate. I think the council have a very outdated approach and need to understand the needs for our youth. 

While I recognise there are drainage issues at Murton Green, construction of the pump track could help resolve this. We need to provide more local facilities for older children and teenagers in the village, not expect them to be driven to an alternative location. The parish council should represent the needs of all in the community. I would imagine there are also some adults in the village who’d use this track as well. 

I’m all in for a pump track or skate park but I don’t think Murton green would be the best place due to fireworks night and my dog loves to run about there! Bishopston Park would be good as I never see anyone use it. 

Good luck. I hope all the hard work you boys are doing gets a good result. 

Noise dissipates in open spaces 👍
ASB will reduce, NOT increase 👍
The village belongs to kids too 👍
Let’s tackle the lack of youth facilities in Murton/Bishopston 👍
Good luck boys/girls ..keep fighting 💪

Good effort guys

Bish park is not as accessible though

I think you should enlarge the park. 

Fantastic idea. Need to get kids out and active. Obesity is at the highest level it has ever been. The benefits to mental health of exercise are also proven. Kids getting out, socialising and exercising will help prevent depression and anxiety as well as improve their physical health. There is no argument!

great fun idea

Discussed with the way the community council have handled this, it should be a whole community discussion, not just a few. 

I didn't realise it was so small, it would only enhance the green and provide entertainment to the young teens which is lacking at present

disagree with 7 out of the 8 objections a bigger track/skate facility is preferable so why not the land on the other side of the road. the cc's response is disappointing - no suggested alternatives put forward 

- easy access for all incl. wheelchair users, buggies etc.
- on view, not hidden away needs to be seen and safe

Great Idea

the skate park is a great idea - keep on plugging at it

What sort of person is against facilities for children that are safe & economic ?

Great project keep going u will succeed!!

This is an excellent project. Fully agree with the proposal. 

The Community Councillors are all unelected; call a vote of no confidence and get sensible forward thinking people to stand.

No to skate ramp. I Only support a pump track suitable for all ages

Bishopston/Murton area is lacking in facilities for older children. This facility would be very well used by all ages and would be low maintenance and self policed by local families using the facility. It would help to keep children and young people active, outdoors and socialising. As a family with 2 boys aged 7 and 9 we would regularly visit as a family. 

Even though i can't use the pump track i think it's a great idea to have. 

I think the space in wellfield would be great for this. Already has a tarmac area that is unused and I so rundown. I think it would be more likely to get it in a place where you’re up cycling rather than replacing green but you guys are the experts. Best of luck you are doing a fantastic job. 

essenial for kids - loads at penyrieol

for years the community council have said no - why? this is really important - a basketball court would also be great

great idea. there is nothing for older children in the area. There Is no youthclub. The community council must have been young once!

This is a fantastic idea. I am very proud of Jake and Jed in their efforts and their consideration to their peers + local community for young people to have a positive opportunity to form a skating community. Go for it!!

this would be an excellent facility

What else is their for this generation around Bishopston? They are the future listen to them!

great idea

plenty of room there I think + opportunity to convert the forge to a juice bar for 12 - 17 year olds

attached to bishopston sports centre

A great idea for all the local Residents / Parents / Children

I'm satisfied with the location

I hope you are successful prepared to help further if required

area shown on survey seems to small make it bigger

the community council is failing to provide appropriate facilities for the many children in the village. this must change no more delays and excuses. for shame on them all

think it is a great idea! best of luck

have ambitions for a much larger track on the other side of the road

The skatepark is a great idea.  Well done on all your hard work to make it happen

Proposed site looks ideal for locality.  Could be a little bigger, plus could it be used for another activity?

Children need safe environments to play

Fully support the project.  Needed for the 8 to 12 + year olds

Well done Jake and jed for your persistence I hope after reading this more people would get behind you

We think it's a good idea for the reasons. Can't think of a better location 

You guys are awesome and it is important the council and local community support this project. This is such a positive and productive use of land and money. Children are the future of Murton and Bishopston👍

Good luck with this! 

I think this is a great idea and hope the Community Council listen to the views of the residents on this matter 

I am very disappointed in the community councils decision. Is shows a real lack of foresight and also a lack of understanding about the needs of the younger generation. Seems like some selfish older generation people blocking it all to me. 

The pump track would be an amazing asset to the community

Originally backed community council decision, but having seen the size of land required, now disagree.

I think the community council needs to broaden its horizons and look at some other similar facilities around the UK. Lots of positive effects for the local community. 

In the Community Council's own words "Through its activities we aim to represent the members of the community in maintaining and improving the environment and facilities in the area.  It is important that we find out the views of the community, which is why we ask that if you have any matters you would like us to take into consideration, please contact us"
This project benefits the local community, the local families, council should respond favourably and encourage projects that impact the community in a positive way which is what the pump track is - a positive impact and a wonderful facility for all to have and enjoy. The local community is in favour of the project and approval of the project will reflect that sentiment.

their are so many families in our village and if you speak to any of them they will say how much support there is for a skate facility

the park at wellfield badly needs updating and a pump track there would be more central to the village

I fully support this initiative there is no reason I can see why it shouldn't be built

there are no facilities for young people - we need something like this in the village

this adds security for youngster
a very good proposal 
possible a larger unit 
could be considered capable of holding competitions for the children

I think the yes / no answers are a bit simplistic.  I support the facility IF it is small scale and away from residential properties. The current location looks ok as long as it stays at the scale stated and does not increase in size, and if it does not prevent other community events such as fireworks and may day.  I do believe that older kids need some facilities and this helps with this. I would also like to hear the views of the youth group that the community council plan to set up to see if this is what the olservice kid's in bishopston want. 

this would be ideal for children of all ages and locating it in the area of other parks / facilities makes sense to me

Good Luck

good luck

A skatepark would be great for youngsters (and adults) in the village. It would encourage children to spend more time outdoors and socialise in a safe environment.

Think it would be a wonderful addition to the village. I have 3 sons and would love for them to have such a facility nearby. 

Need more sporting facilities for families to use of all ages 

About time there were facilities for all ages

The proposed site is The best option as far as I can see.  It would be accessible for all and be part of the community.  I think all members of our community would be responsible for ensuring that the space would be used in a respectable and responsible fashion and that both young, teens and adults would feel safe using it or being near it.

This is a brilliant idea for local children. Murton is the perfect location.

Great idea and a needed facility for kids and the youth of the village. 

Either location would work, there is a playground and football goals already in Bish Park so the fact it is surrounded by houses should make no difference, I guess there is less room there to put a pump track though. 

A pump track with mini ramp like the one in Gorseinon would be great! Maybe suggesting a yearly competition to raise awareness of local businesses etc.

This facility is exactly what we should be undertaking to improve the health and wellbeing of our young people. 

Great work guys, best of luck! 

A skatepark would be better + more inclusive but take what you can

I am impressed how the project members have presented their case

we as a household are very impressed by the 3 lads involved + fully support the project. we need to get behind younger community members!
Good Luck

There is currently v little for the young teens to do in the village. we need this and more

I wonder if there's anyone in the community council who represents young people? I assume the majority are not this age group. 

Time for change. 

don't give up your hard work in trying to bring this facility about!
WELL DONE!!

This was proposed many years ago by the community council but then Swansea city representative lost interest!!

I would rather see the skatepark in the heart of bish than in Murton. The disused play area site is enclosed and separate from traffic. The land is not being used for other things (ie May Day and village activities) and it’s closer to the school. 

This is a brilliant idea. Well done guys. 

Great for children and adults to go and exercise and to be outside.

A skate park in bishopston would be AMAZING 

As a non-driving Mum, this local project would be wonderful for my 2 children. I feel that a village like Murton should cater for the needs of the young, as well as the old. 

I’m all for this pump track to go ahead on Murton green. My only concern is that it’s too small. I think people will lose interest in it and maybe travel further away to use better facilities (like Gorseinon). If we’re going to do this, let’s make it the best we can.. 

We think this is a fantastic initiative, which would provide a much needed sports and social facility for the youngsters in our community. Well done to all involved in the campaign. 

commendable project keep up the good work and you will gather support

A much larger area shoud be provides for this so children can develop skills and exercise in a safe enviroment

it would be good for children to do more outdoor activity

Family, bishopston residents, therefore part of the community including my grandson.

CCTV will protect everyone

proposed site is ideal, as there are plenty of car parking facilities available

There is currently nothing in the village for 10-16 years olds, a skatepark/Pump track would make a superb enhancement to our village. 

car park facilities are already on site, plus with dayroom centre maby for toilet facilies etc..

We think the proposed area shops be bigger ie set to the left closer to the park

good luck, hope you get a skatepark somewhere

This is a must have for this area its not an option to not have it!!

the suggested site looks perfect

I entirely support the comments of PC Jeavons

Good location

This is the best location

it will be good for the children to have a different interest

its a great addition to our village for young and old skaters alike 

Fantastic idea

it is important to support younger members of the community

although we or our family would not use it we feel it would be an ideal facility for the village good luck

great for the local community social and mental wellbeing and good for the economy

I think this would be an excellent addition to bishopston

I would love a pump/skate track

FANTASTIC IDEA!

Support Jake and Jed.  My own son attempted this when he was their age.  Keith Marsh promised the council would consider it and that was 17 years ago.  Disgraceful

Children in need more outdoor facilities what happened to the youth clubs we enjoyed as kids. +12 children on guests

hope it goes ahed soon before the boys grow up! Very impressed by the way this has been handled that the boys behaved so responsibly and the adults listen to them it is so encouraging to hear the policeman's comments. I have a grandson their age and I know that they now take along off the main road route down to the mumbles Road site off the main road route down to the mumbles that is still partly on a lane of traffic so until we have a cycle path across the common this should go ahead soon I do hope that you keep a healthy hedge between the Punk track and the main road. Should this eventually proved unsuccessful when the boys grow up the site could easily be turned into an attractive rockery with a seat for the elderly.

My ground at wellfield is in terrible repair already designated as A play area this would be great site for this without taking up the green space 

We moan children don't go out to play, stuck on computers... Our younger generations need facilities, this would be fantastic for our community. 

We want are young people to enjoy the outdoors

we need to support fun and different exercise options in the area.

We need this because I love cycling and skateboarding so it would be a good place for me to practise

Concrete bowl as well

Drainage is an issue on the site (it was once a bog) however its an ideal place. We'd love to use this! Well Done Guys!

B.S.P is entirely admirable. Only concern - louts from outside area spoiling it for everyone.

Children need more places to play

Kids need more fun Outdoors

children need more play equipment

I’m aware some people in the village are worried about young people gathering and noise etc... what about adding in some ‘adult’ exercise equipment for all ages and for disabled people to make it an area interesting for all people and bring the community together doing different activities... maybe that would be too costly but it might meet with approval of the doubters??? Good luck!!! 

this is badly needed in the area. there are no facilities for young adults

It is essential for the healthy development of young people in this community that they have somewhere to meet and socialise and feel a sense of belonging. They have a right to play and leisure and I dispute the community council's right to prevent this. The community council being a very small, not necessarily representative group of people.  I have contributed significantly to facilitate play opportunities in the village for 5-13 year olds for the past 29 years via Bishopston Summer playscheme and feel very strongly that this isn't enough, children and young people need a year round place to meet up, socialise, exercise and develop the skills of tolerance and acceptance. This is what builds healthy communities. 

Teenagers need something positive to do. As adults we ned to provide this for them. A skatepark is beneficial + positive addition to the community

All ages could use this facility not just children

I think a skatepark can only be of great benefit in an area which is lacking in facilities for kids aged 8-9+. Fully support this proposal and the location. The excuses being put forward not to support this don’t make sense - I can only think of 2 days where that land is used for other purposes (May Day) and (bonfire night). 2 days out of 365!!!!! The rest of the time it’s never used!!! This would be a perfect thing to put there. 

Skateboard provision, and for that matter play provision in general throughout Bishopston has been a matter for discussion by the community council for decades. It is apparent that children and young people are not seen as legitimate users of all public open space other than those specifically designated for them. Its time for change. 

Great idea, Very inclusive, all ages ages, good fitness, interaction + social development. improved bike skills will encourage bile use on road + less driving of cars

Keeping children healthy, outdoors in a safe, accessible environment is paramount 

1. bishopston not murton
2. they did not say that, see my notes question misleading

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THIS GOES AHED

youngsters desperately need local activities 

Great idea
Go For It

Murton council needs to wake up and see the potential for young people

What about landscaping around the track to decrease its visibility?  see how the car park around Bryn mill paddling pool is landscaped. what an excellent project. much needed facility and very professional.

The young people of this community need some provision for their leisure activities. There is literally no where that they can take ownership of in this community. 

Some feedback would be to look at question 2. Did the council refuse any land or just the proposed plan. The council have given quite a well defended argument as to why the proposed site is not suitable. Would it be a good idea to publish a response to their decision before the closing date?  This way There may be more support as I really wanted to answer yes to question 3. Ignore this if it’s already on the flyer. I think my hubby has already handed it in. 

My concern would be around upkeep and maintenance-who would be responsible? I already pay enough council tax

I live in Kittle and feel that there is nothing within safe walking distance for children. Due to lack of pavements Pennard is out of reach and Bishopston park is in a state of disrepair. We desperately need this facility and Murton is accessible and central.

Currently there is very little for the young people around the Mumble area. In Murton there a two parks, one fallen apart and one only fit for small children. I believe that if we had a skate park, all ages would use this. This would be amazing for the community.

I think Murton would be good 

Would be a much needed superb addition to the village for all children young and old 

This is such an important thing to have for children in any community...the long term effects will be so positive for both users and the wider community. It’s a no-brainer! 

we must encourage the older and younger people to have actives outdoors

I think its crazy that their is so little support for anything for teenager in Bish

kids need somewhere to play

I fully support this project it would be an amazing resource for the older children in the community

good luck - physical enjoyable outdoor actives are vital for childrens health and development

I think a skateboard park would be a great asset to Bishopston/ Murton.  At present, children in the 8-15 age range have very little to do locally.  I feel that a skatepark might be a better option than a pump track, if only this small area was available, because less space is needed for such a facility.  If the decision was for a pump track rather than a skatepark, I think that a greater area of land should be made available for the purpose.  This would allow it to be a really excellent facility that the local children could enjoy.  Whilst on holiday in Cornwall, we saw a great skatepark in Padstow.  Something like this, even on a smaller scale would be amazing for local kids.  A decent size pump track would also be great and either would be good for the physical and social development of local children.  Thank you for all your efforts in trying to develop this facility.

I do not want a track in the nursery park 5m away from my bedroom my garden fence is the nursey Park perimeter 

If this is what young people want then this should be built. I wonder whether the 55 + are at it again and blocking stuff for teenagers. 

This is a fantastic idea

Good idea but don't like location 

This is an important facility for the local community

As above 

As a family with 2 boys who love their bikes and scooters we very much welcome this project

Excellent idea as we know that our grandson and friends would love it

I feel it would be a good facility for the younger generation

I would rather a skatepark than pump, but at this point anything will do!

The community council should support this

Facilities for young teens and late primary school children need to be addressed.  This would be a huge bonus and benefit local shops too!

Skate facility needed in the area

Always good to have facilities for all ages to enjoy

This is so needed for our kids!

Well Done Boys!

We dont want it in the school as we get noise from the school gym from 10pm

Involve an engineer / architect to produce a well landscaped proposal 

I think it's a great idea to have a local pump track to have on with friends. - poppy age 10

I have absolutely no idea why this was ever turned down. It’s a great initiative for young people by local young people, surely this should be encouraged in our community. What a great way to stay active and bring the community together. Turning it down was very short sighted and demonstrates how limited our community council can be.

Skateboarding, scootering and BMXing are fantastic individual sports that do not require a team and provide an opportunity for young people to stay active and socialise whilst challenging themselves physically, if they wish. Developing such a facility would be a great way of demonstrating to the people of the local community that the local council is making the well being of young people a priority and acknowledging the priorities set out by Welsh Government in The Well Being of Future Generations act. 

I have been a member of Bishopston playscheme and am now a committed member. I cannot cannot emphasis enough how important this will be to the Bishopston community. 

Facilities for the youth in this are are vital to enhance social connection and overall well-being. The council should be jumping at the chance to support this plan! 

Get young people active for free .. its great for mental health and would make young people feel more encouraged and included by the community with a skatepark investment.

I think the proposed location is perfect. It’s central and accessible. I was very disappointed to see the community council’s reasons behind not supporting it, and feel their views are wholly unrepresentative of a large proportion of the community. 

This will be a really special addition for the local youth in the area. Well done on continuing the campaign. 

I think it is a good idea good job :)

great idea

We feel it should be at least double the size, possibly L shape with the other part to the right of the area marked parallel to the carpark 

It would be great for the community 

It is so vital for all generations to have accessible outdoor activities local. In today’s world where mental health crisis looms in youngsters- give them something to channel their energy into. As a community the youngsters are our future and we need to invest in them- that is our duty and responsibility 

Not Wellfield

-Q. supervision + monitoring?
-hazardous sport medial?
-daylight use only?

encourage these wounderful youngsters - don't put obstacles in their way.

project would encourage young people to enjoy exercise + friendship

I think a skate facility could be situated near the common by the bus stop on murton green road - on common land away from houses land could be cleared there.

Excellent idea

Although I now live in Mayals I lived in Bishopston backing onto Wellfield park and I would have no problem at all with a skate park going there.

The council should be fully supporting this scheme by representation and financially.

Might be worth approaching local businesses like down to earth or murton farm, as they seem less nimby than the council! 

This would be a great thing for the community 

The bigger the better plus planting and pic Nik table s...a real family day out ...making sure the CCTV is covering the entire area so no worries about drugs

Very cool an snazzy idea

Good idea

The land was left to the children of Murton years ago. It should be honoured. The Children need somewhere to go. Go back through the archives and you will see Murton Green was left for children youths to play on. 
 

I think it’s a fantastic idea for the young people in the community.

When I was a kid, there was nothing to do in Bishopston. So I used to skate/longboard in the streets. This is dangerous.  A skate park would of been ideal. So, better late than never! 🤘

The community council are their to deliver for the community
This is a much needed facility for the young people who live here little or no facilities or activities in the village. 

In 52 and can't wait to skate here!
Good luck x

We need more facilities particularly for teenagers would encourage healthly outdoor activities 

I think it's a great idea and great way to encourage people to get outside. A facility like this doesn't exist anywhere close enough to the community for people in the area to feasibly use without having to drive there. Murton green is such a large space that is rarely used (aside from the odd occasion) - if you were to add up the amount of use a pump track would have vs. other uses of this relatively small requested area it should be a pretty clear decision. I don't really understand what the opposition to this is 🤔

This seems to be a much needed facility in our community, particularly for young people.

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WE NEED TO DO ALL WE POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THEY ARE OUR FUTURE!!

This would be a great addition to the village - Thank You!

would be such an asset to the village

the more facilies we can get for youngsters the better

a proper costed feasibility study is needed. there are real problem with drainage in that to cater

I did agree with the points made by the council about the proposed track in mumbles being so close although I would like to see a pump track in the village. Areas for older kids are in very short supply.

Pump track style designs are very limited in their scope and usage. It would not be fitting to design just this. Many people young and old would be left out having no use for the facility, as it caters very precisely to younger users of bikes and scooters. A well designed and even small, fully concrete 'skateboard park' facility is much more likely to have wider usage by the community, owing to the greatly increased number of activities that it would easily provide. 

Good luck!

The community needs this

It is only a small area that is needed and we should be encouraging healthy pursuits.

a facility is needed where

the area must be matinee by the council their are few facilities for young people in our village

lots of land on Mansell green unused?
Pump track looks small, shame you have to settle for that

I would encourage outdoor activities such as this within the village I admire the initiative and commitment by the youngsters involved in the proposal however as we worker in the area I'm sadly unimpressed with the existing play area and would like to see major improvements to the play park in Bishopston and Murton the facilities for all ages of children should be available in the village Alive

Outdoor activities for youngsters excellenct idea

Ask the cc for a reason why

I think it will be great for the youth of today - not me because I'm 94 - but my gran children